Kevin Holland’s UFC future has nothing to do with record and rankings

Kevin Holland (23-7, 19 finishes) is scheduled Saturday to face Daniel Rodriguez (16-2, 12 finishes) in a 180-pound contest, 10 kilos above their typical welterweight restrict, on the UFC 279 pay-per-view predominant card (10 p.m.). The occasion is headlined by 170-pounders Khamzat Chimaev and Nate Diaz. Forward of the bout at T-Cell Enviornment in Las Vegas, Holland chatted Thursday through Zoom with The Submit’s Scott Fontana for this week’s Submit Combat Interview Q&A.

Q: You have been lately rapping in a music video with MGF Bandit. How did this come about?
A: The entire household has musical expertise. My cousin, MGF Bandit, that’s what he does; he’s a rapper. I simply needed to make use of a little bit little bit of the recognition I've to assist push him. If we will get a couple of individuals within the household wealthy, then I’m not the one individual within the household they must ask for cash. And I’m not saying I’m wealthy. I’m simply saying, you already know…

Q: Was this the primary observe you’ve ever rapped on?
A: Again within the day, like after I was preparing for the Curtis Millender combat [in 2017], I actually wasn’t preparing for the combat. My cousin had a studio in the home, and we have been simply smoking mad weed, ingesting mad liquor and doing wraps the entire time. After which I regarded up, and I used to be like, “Oh, f–ok, I’m two weeks out from the combat.” After which I spotted I wanted to go begin coaching. So yeah, it’s not the primary time, it’s simply the primary time I truly like, alright, let’s put it on the market.

Kevin Holland punches Tim Means in a welterweight fight on June 18, 2022.
Kevin Holland punches Tim Means in a welterweight combat on June 18, 2022.
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Q: I believed it was fascinating you went with Large Mouth to your identify as an alternative of Kevin Holland or “Trailblazer,” your combat nickname. Clearly we all know Dana White coined that however what made you decide it for music?
A: I simply felt like Trailblazer wasn’t actually like a rapping identify. However I felt like Large Mouth was an actual common identify. And I really feel like lots of people know me as Large Mouth, after which I obtained this big-ass Large Mouth chain. So the whole lot has “TB” on it, however I simply personal the Large Mouth factor. It’s been my UFC, form of clichéd factor. That’s the place all the recognition comes from.

Q: That is your eleventh combat for the reason that pandemic hit, sixteenth whole for the UFC. Jim Miller’s at 40 and climbing for essentially the most UFC fights. How does the concept of taking that document sometime sound, staying energetic for years to come back?
A: Nah, I don’t see myself hitting 40. If I did 5 for the remainder of my [career] … even when I did 4 — as a result of 5 might be not gonna occur — I’m at 16 now, I’ll be at 17 by the tip of the yr, that’ll put me at, what, 21 subsequent yr. Yeah, I don’t see myself hitting 40 fights within the UFC. Sucks, however I don’t see it occurring (laughs).

Q: Is it since you don’t need to? Are you somebody who says, “I’m not combating previous 40?”
A: Oh, I’m not combating previous 35. After I hit 36 years outdated, I’m performed. That’s at all times been my quantity; that’s at all times been my objective. The objective was initially 34, retire for a yr, after which come again. Sure, 36 within the quantity, in order that they’ve obtained 5 extra good, magical years out of me as a result of I flip 30 on the finish of the yr. It's what it's. I’m not complaining about it.

Kevin Holland celebrates his TKO victory over Alex Oliveira at UFC 272.
Kevin Holland celebrates his TKO victory over Alex Oliveira at UFC 272.
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Q: What occurs after 36?
A: I’m a reasonably proficient man. I may most likely act a little bit bit if I actually needed to. Possibly the rapping takes off and I might help among the different rappers get their profession up and going. I like serving to different fighters get sponsors and stuff like that, so I don’t thoughts the entire administration scene, so most likely administration and possibly open up a health club in the future. That’s most likely extra doubtless what I’ll do, so I can have a constant job base, and open up a few small companies, coach a couple of fighters with the blokes that I got here up with within the recreation after which attempt to turn out to be simply pretty much as good as James Krause. That’s the objective, proper? A very good coach. If I may f–king retire from combating and be pretty much as good as that man at teaching and be pretty much as good as my supervisor at managing, then I feel I’d be doing a very good justice to the MMA neighborhood; extra justice than I’m doing now, in order that’d be superior.

Q: You've stated that is at 180 kilos as a result of Daniel Rodriguez couldn’t make welterweight in time. Do you assume the truth that this isn’t inside that division works in opposition to your capacity to maneuver up within the rankings?
A: “D-Rod” was by no means actually ranked to start with proper now. He was again within the day, however he’s not anymore. He most likely ought to nonetheless have his rating however doesn’t. It doesn’t actually matter. A combat’s a combat. So long as I preserve successful, it’s form of arduous to disclaim me something. I've a good buzz behind my identify, and  so long as I preserve amassing dubs [wins], it’s form of arduous to show that down. I’ll simply preserve f–king climbing that ladder till I can’t climb that ladder anymore.

Q: You used to have a quantity subsequent to your identify as a ranked middleweight, however you continue to haven’t been ranked at welterweight. Did it shock you that you just weren’t ranked after getting a few wins at 170 kilos?
A: For positive. It was form of complicated that I used to be as soon as ranked at [185]. I took a combat at welterweight. I believed after I did my first welterweight win. I used to be gonna be ranked in two weight lessons. I regarded on the rankings on Tuesday, and I used to be f–king unranked at middleweight and unranked at welterweight. So I used to be like, “Oh, cool.” I obtained a second dub; nonetheless unranked. “Oh, cool.” I’ve by no means been the kind of man the place that sort of stuff issues. It’s good to get credit score the place credit score is due, however on the finish of the day, I don’t actually care. So long as I’m combating, successful, that’s actually what issues. Simply going on the market; simply getting higher each time.

Q: Do you recall your first expertise watching MMA?
A: I bear in mind my first time remembering watching combined martial arts. That’s most likely a greater solution to put it. I watched it with my grandfather a couple of occasions. He was flipping forwards and backwards between boxing and that s–t, so it’s form of arduous to even cycle what the f–ok’s been occurring on the time. In between rounds, he’s like (pantomimes quickly altering channels). Like, bro, how are you aware what the hell’s occurring within the combat? How do you try this? So I used to be sitting within the room one night time, nighttime, I awoke. TV was on Versus. WEC was on, and it was Urijah Faber versus Matt Brown. Urijah Faber’s fingers have been broke, smacking dude with elbows. [I’m] purported to be going to sleep, obtained faculty the subsequent morning, obtained work the subsequent morning, however I used to be like, “Alright, cool. This s–t’s fascinating.” I simply saved watching it, simply saved watching. One other combat got here on, and I used to be like, “Rattling, these little motherf–kers can combat.” So yeah, first time I actually bear in mind watching it, it needed to be most likely WEC or Strikeforce. I truly bear in mind watching the Diaz brothers combat again within the day. My grandfather was an actual large Diaz fan. 

Q: Typical walkaround weight between fights?
A: 192 kilos; 194.

Q: Typical weight for a welterweight bout on combat night time?
A: 190 kilos; 192 kilos.

Q: So that you simply get again to your pure walkaround weight.
A: My physique is aware of the place it likes to be.

Q: Favourite post-weight minimize meal?
A: If we’re at 185 kilos, I need to eat a selection. … [At 170 pounds], the physique’s a little bit bit extra clear. Can’t do these sort of issues, so it’s normally that little pasta meal they offer you after weigh-ins. It has a little bit little bit of meat in there and s–t. I wish to throw some further cheese on there; throw some sizzling sauce on that thang, and we good to go.

Q: Who in MMA do you most admire?
A: I love all my individuals. All people that I affiliate with. I love each single one among them. That’s why I affiliate with them. In the event that they’re not on my group, and I don’t affiliate with them, it’s f–ok ’em and feed ’em fish. And I hope it’s uncooked, nasty f–king spoiled fish, and their abdomen begins to harm.

Q: What’s the good method in fight sports activities?
A: My proper hand smacking you throughout the face as a result of it normally means KO, child.

Q: Favourite film?
A: Truthfully, nah, bro, I simply commute. I like this film in the future; this film the subsequent day. It’s all about how I really feel.

Q: Favourite outside exercise?
A: Capturing weapons.

Q: Favourite online game?
A: “Name of Obligation.” Capturing weapons.

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