Eric Mangini has faced the QB decision that the Jets need to make on Zach Wilson: ‘I don’t envy Robert at all’

Eric Mangini has been in Robert Saleh’s chair. Actually.

Mangini was the Jets head coach when the crew moved into its Florham Park headquarters and was the primary occupant of the coach’s first-floor workplace there. Mangini additionally has needed to make some powerful choices about his beginning quarterback as a head coach, each with the Jets after which with the Browns.

“I don’t envy Robert in any respect,” Mangini, now an analyst for FS1, stated Tuesday. “It’s a tough factor to do. It’s arduous in any market. It’s actually arduous within the New York market.”

Saleh should resolve whether or not to stay with Zach Wilson as his beginning quarterback or swap to both Mike White or Joe Flacco. Mangini believes Saleh ought to make a swap, however is aware of in addition to anybody how arduous it's to make a change at quarterback.

Jets head coach Eric Mangini on the sidelines during a game against the St. Louis Rams on November 9, 2008.
Former Jets head coach Eric Mangini stated of creating a quarterback change, “It’s arduous in any market. It’s actually arduous within the New York market.”
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“It’s actually tough,” stated Mangini, who coaches the Jets from 2006-08. “I feel this really may be tougher since you’ve invested such a excessive draft decide within the quarterback and everyone desires to make it work. It’s not like anyone goes into this hoping that Zach fails. All people goes into it hoping Zach is profitable. However once you attain this level within the season and the state of affairs is the place it's proper now, you do should take a step again and say, ‘OK, perhaps it’s a time for a change.’ ”

Mangini stated he thought the Jets would possibly make the swap after the crew’s first loss to the Patriots when Wilson threw three interceptions in a 22-17 loss. However Saleh caught by Wilson, and didn't open the door to creating an opportunity till Monday, the day after a dispiriting 10-3 loss to those self same Patriots in a recreation by which Wilson threw for 77 yards and the Jets gained simply 2 whole yards within the second half.

“Once you take a look at it, particularly with a younger man, it doesn’t should be gaudy stats that bounce out at you,” Mangini stated. “It doesn’t should be apparent issues, however you’ve acquired to see progress. I don’t know what you level to, at this level, both from a head teaching standpoint, a GM standpoint or an proprietor standpoint or a locker-room standpoint and say, ‘OK, he’s making progress.’”

New York Jets head coach Robert Saleh and New England Patriots head coach Bill Belichick shake hands on the field after the Jets lost to the Patriots 10-3.
Eric Mangini watched Patriots coach Invoice Belichick (proper) make probably the most famed quarterback decisions in NFL historical past. Now it’s Jets coach Robert Saleh’s flip.
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Like most individuals, Mangini was not a fan of Wilson’s efficiency in his postgame press convention when he stated he didn't really feel like he let down the protection, which allowed only a area purpose.

Mangini stated Saleh now should face a room stuffed with gamers and ensure he doesn't lose credibility if he retains taking part in Wilson.

“’You’ve stated to us that you simply’re going to play the perfect gamers,’” Mangini stated of what gamers might be considering. “’You’ve stated to us that accountability is vital and efficiency is vital. Properly, then, present us that it’s vital.’ I feel that’s the place I’m certain [Saleh] is.”

Mangini stated each quarterback change was powerful. He went from Chad Pennington to Kellen Clemens in the course of the 2007 season after which reduce Pennington in 2008 when the crew traded for Brett Favre, which was a call made by these above Mangini.

Jets quarterback Chad Pennington #10 at practice in August 2008.
The Jets reduce quarterback Chad Pennington previous to the 2008 season.
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“I feel the toughest factor emotionally was most likely having to chop Chad,” Mangini stated. “He was such a very good man, and had carried out properly and I assumed the crew was stepping into the suitable route. We made the choice to attempt to take a bounce, which for some time it labored.”

Mangini additionally mirrored on a call to not change quarterbacks that he regrets. With the Jets in playoff rivalry late in 2008, Favre suffered an arm harm, however stored taking part in. On the time, Favre was in the course of what can be an NFL-record streak of 297 consecutive video games performed. Mangini stated ending that streak weighed on his determination.

“When Brett was banged up and wasn’t taking part in as properly, I most likely ought to have put Kellen in for a few of these video games, however how do you break the longest streak within the NFL?” Mangini stated. “Looking back, you most likely strive one thing completely different.”

Mangini additionally witnessed one of many biggest quarterback debates in NFL historical past as a younger assistant coach with the Patriots when Invoice Belichick determined to stay with Tom Brady after Drew Bledsoe returned from harm in 2001. The choice led to the Patriots’ first Tremendous Bowl title.

New York Jets quarterback Brett Favre runs off the field after a loss to the Miami Dolphins on December 28, 2008.
Brett Favre’s consecutive video games performed streak factored into the Jets’ determination to proceed to play him as he struggled down the stretch in 2008.
Anthony J. Causi

“One factor that I respect extremely about Invoice Belichick is he does have a capability to make the toughest of selections, and he could make these unemotional choices and he’s not going to actually care what anyone thinks,” Mangini stated. “He’s going to go along with what his intestine says. He reduce probably the most well-known quarterback [Bernie Kosar] in Cleveland Browns historical past, which you discuss backlash. However generally it takes that willingness to take an opportunity, to exit on a limb, to maneuver ahead.”

Saleh is now looking at that limb. One mistaken step and it may break.

Scouting the Island

The Jets are honoring Darrelle Revis on Sunday, including him to their Ring of Honor at halftime. Mangini was the Jets head coach in 2007 when the crew traded as much as draft Revis.

Mangini recalled the draft analysis of Revis, probably the greatest cornerbacks to ever play.

“I spent the early a part of my teaching profession with defensive backs, and there are specific issues that you simply search for,” Mangini stated. “There are the bodily traits: top, weight, pace. There are the stuff you search for on tape: Can he play the deep ball? Can he play man-to-man? Can he sort out? It was test, test, test. Then we had our core traits, which you heard me discuss 1,000,000 occasions, the intangibles, and people had been test, test, test. Outdoors of perhaps elite ball abilities, like a Ty Regulation or a man who can generate a ton of interceptions, perhaps on that one the test wasn’t written in with as thick an ink, however he nonetheless had talents there to get the ball out.

Eric Mangini talks with Darrelle Revis and Kerry Rhodes during workouts at the New York Jets practice facility in Florham Park, N.J., October 6, 2008.
Eric Mangini talks with Darrelle Revis (24) and Kerry Rhodes (25) throughout a Jets observe in 2008.
Jeff Zelevansky

“Going via that entire course of and having each field checked off, after which I acquired an opportunity to satisfy him and I acquired an opportunity to satisfy his mother and to spend time with him and see what sort of particular person he was and the household that he got here from. It was us then attempting to determine: How can we get him? We arrange the commerce the night time earlier than with Carolina, saying, ‘If our man is right here, we wish to commerce,’ after which we simply held our breath.”

The Jets moved up 11 spots to get Revis, and he turned a celebrity with the crew.

All three of the Jets’ Ring of Honor nominees had been drafted by the duo of Mangini and basic supervisor Mike Tannenbaum. They constructed the muse for the 2009 and 2010 playoff groups in these drafts and with a few of their different participant acquisitions. As Nick Mangold, D’Brickashaw Ferguson and Revis are honored, the achievements of Mangini and Tannenbaum throughout that point also needs to be remembered.

Stat’s so

Zach Wilson #2 of the New York Jets runs the ball for a first down during the first quarter against the New England Patriots on November 20, 2022.
Zach Wilson joined sad Jets firm throughout his outing towards the Patriots on Sunday.
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Zach Wilson’s 77-yard passing day in Sunday’s loss to the Patriots was one of many worst passing performances in franchise historical past. Here's a take a look at the fewest passing yards by a Jets quarterback in a recreation with no less than 22 go makes an attempt:

Al Woodall: 20 yards (4-of-24, 0 TD, 0 INT)
Oct. 10, 1971, at Patriots, L, 20-0

Browing Nagle: 77 yards (9-of-24, 0 TD, 2 INT)
Nov. 22, 1992, at Patriots, L, 24-3

Richard Todd: 77 yards (10-of-27, 0 TD, 2 INT)
Dec. 14, 1980, vs. Saints, L, 21-20

Zach Wilson: 77 yards (9-of-22, 0 TD, 0 INT)
Nov. 20, 2022, at Patriots, L, 10-3

Boomer Esiason: 82 yards (10-of-23, 0 TD, 0 INT)
Dec. 24, 1994, at Oilers, L, 24-10

Sam Darnold: 86 yards (11-of-32, 0 TD, 4 INT)
Oct. 21, 2019, vs. Patriots, L, 33-0

Ken O’Brien: 87 yards (8-of-23, 0 TD, 0 INT)
Nov. 4, 1990, vs. Cowboys, W, 24-9

Al Dorow: 90 yards (8-of-24, 0 TD, 3 INT)
Dec. 17, 1961, at Texans, L, 35-24

Al Woodall: 91 yards (10-of-24, 1 TD, 2 INT)
Dec. 13, 1970, at Dolphins, L, 16-10

Marty Domres: 93 yards (14-of-24 1 TD, 0 INT)
Nov. 6, 1977, vs. Dolphins, L, 14-10

Supply: Stathead

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